Comments on: Why Programmers Are Broke and Marketers Earn Millions! http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/ insights from a retired blackhat seo guy Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:07:08 +0000 hourly 1 By: solosurfer’s Blog » Blog Archive » What Program Is Best To Use As Adsense Alternate Ads? http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/comment-page-1/#comment-2903 solosurfer’s Blog » Blog Archive » What Program Is Best To Use As Adsense Alternate Ads? Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:00:23 +0000 http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/?p=45#comment-2903 [...] What Is The Best And Fastest Way To Get 10000 Ramdom Links? People find search engines are becoming very popular these days. See how you can own your own search engine and profit. [...] [...] What Is The Best And Fastest Way To Get 10000 Ramdom Links? People find search engines are becoming very popular these days. See how you can own your own search engine and profit. [...]

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]]> By: Lyndon Antcliff http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/comment-page-1/#comment-709 Lyndon Antcliff Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:21:47 +0000 http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/?p=45#comment-709 I tried hard for a few years to learn php, but just don't have the mindset, I'm not a details guy. I agree with Earl Grey, you don't need to learn programming if you can handle strategy. Been in the biz for over a decade and what I have learned is that you focus on one aspect and get really, really good at it. Even becoming the best. Once you do that, things are easy. I think the days of the solo blackhat programming away in the bedroom are drawing to an end, these days it pays to network and specialise. What did I do b4 Ralph Hardy, it's pretty much all on the blog. Before mucking about online I was a profesional unemployed and unemployable writer. I tried hard for a few years to learn php, but just don’t have the mindset, I’m not a details guy. I agree with Earl Grey, you don’t need to learn programming if you can handle strategy.

Been in the biz for over a decade and what I have learned is that you focus on one aspect and get really, really good at it. Even becoming the best. Once you do that, things are easy.

I think the days of the solo blackhat programming away in the bedroom are drawing to an end, these days it pays to network and specialise.

What did I do b4 Ralph Hardy, it’s pretty much all on the blog. Before mucking about online I was a profesional unemployed and unemployable writer.

]]> By: Bompa http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/comment-page-1/#comment-686 Bompa Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:38:09 +0000 http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/?p=45#comment-686 "If you can help people make thousands more a year, a few hundred is nothing. Think big. Creativity is a commodity increasing in value." <a href="http://www.linkbaitcoaching.com/" target=_blank>@Lyndon, the link bait coach</a>, Okay, I guess you have a good point. What were you doing before the "13 year old credit card thief" story? We are all curious. :) Bompa “If you can help people make thousands more a year, a few hundred is nothing. Think big. Creativity is a commodity increasing in value.”

@Lyndon, the link bait coach,

Okay, I guess you have a good point.

What were you doing before the “13 year old credit card thief” story?

We are all curious.

:)

Bompa

]]> By: Bompa http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/comment-page-1/#comment-685 Bompa Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:46:55 +0000 http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/?p=45#comment-685 @CuriousSEO, Thank you for correcting me with my Zuckerberg example. Regarding newbies asking to hire a coder on syndk8, yah, they do get shunned often. Lyndon Antcliff,<a href="http://www.linkbaitcoaching.com/">the link bait coach</a>, dropped by here yesterday, he charges $400/hour for link bait advice, I wonder if he knows any programming? If not, he would serve as good example to your original question. Maybe he'll be back. Bompa @CuriousSEO,

Thank you for correcting me with my Zuckerberg example.

Regarding newbies asking to hire a coder on syndk8, yah, they do get shunned often.

Lyndon Antcliff,the link bait coach, dropped by here yesterday, he charges $400/hour for link
bait advice, I wonder if he knows any programming? If not, he would serve as good example to your original question. Maybe he’ll be back.

Bompa

]]> By: CuriousSEO http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/comment-page-1/#comment-653 CuriousSEO Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:15:52 +0000 http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/?p=45#comment-653 Cool - thanks for the inspiring & quick response. Only thing I have to take issue on though is your example of Mark Zuckerberg (who actually went to Harvard, not MIT, just as an fyi :-)). There was a big controversy and ultimately a undisclosed amount of $$ paid in a settelement with former Harvard classmates. Apparently, some upperclassman hired him as an intern - to finish the code for an earlier version of Facebook. Because he wasn't under any kind of contract, he took the liberty of taking off with that idea - making it bigger & better with his own brains obviously. Personally, I think those greedy Harvard upperclassman learned a lesson they'll never forget - don't take advantage of the people you need. It'll bite you in the end. Clearly, they should have been paying him or worked out something...and for Harvard folk - pretty stupid to not have anything in writing! So, I'm kinda taking issue with this example cause it seems it actually WAS his programming skills (along with questionable ethics & brilliant foresight) that took Facebook where it was today. The people with the original IDEA lost out big time!!! And the Syndk8.net forum is actually what fueled my original question to you in the 1st place (and again on this blog in the link bait post). I saw some newbies up there asking about hired help or programming...and it seemed like the consensus was people were unaffordable and they were shunned for even asking. Maybe I misunderstood what people were actually asking for though...that's possible. I only just started looking around... Cool - thanks for the inspiring & quick response. Only thing I have to take issue on though is your example of Mark Zuckerberg (who actually went to Harvard, not MIT, just as an fyi :-)). There was a big controversy and ultimately a undisclosed amount of $$ paid in a settelement with former Harvard classmates. Apparently, some upperclassman hired him as an intern - to finish the code for an earlier version of Facebook. Because he wasn’t under any kind of contract, he took the liberty of taking off with that idea - making it bigger & better with his own brains obviously.

Personally, I think those greedy Harvard upperclassman learned a lesson they’ll never forget - don’t take advantage of the people you need. It’ll bite you in the end. Clearly, they should have been paying him or worked out something…and for Harvard folk - pretty stupid to not have anything in writing! So, I’m kinda taking issue with this example cause it seems it actually WAS his programming skills (along with questionable ethics & brilliant foresight) that took Facebook where it was today. The people with the original IDEA lost out big time!!!

And the Syndk8.net forum is actually what fueled my original question to you in the 1st place (and again on this blog in the link bait post). I saw some newbies up there asking about hired help or programming…and it seemed like the consensus was people were unaffordable and they were shunned for even asking. Maybe I misunderstood what people were actually asking for though…that’s possible. I only just started looking around…

]]> By: Lyndon Antcliff http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/2008/09/14/why-programmers-are-broke-and-marketers-earn-millions/comment-page-1/#comment-646 Lyndon Antcliff Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:18:48 +0000 http://blackhatbootcamp.com/blog/?p=45#comment-646 "Here’s a guy that charges $400/hour to give you link bait advice. LMFAO" You remind me that I really have to put my rates up ;) If you can help people make thousands more a year, a few hundred is nothing. Think big. Creativity is a commodity increasing in value. By the way, most of my business is repeat business, now what does that tell you? “Here’s a guy that charges $400/hour to give you link bait advice. LMFAO”

You remind me that I really have to put my rates up ;)

If you can help people make thousands more a year, a few hundred is nothing. Think big. Creativity is a commodity increasing in value.

By the way, most of my business is repeat business, now what does that tell you?

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